Jun 23 2009
What Are You Talking About?
Almost every time I hear people speak of “Anarchism”, I have no Idea what they are talking about. And whats worse is I fancy myself to be a bit of an Anarchist. I ran across this video of Noam Chomsky explaining “Anarchism” an finally someone else was talking about what I thought about as regards “Anarchism”. Professor Chomsky has taught me plenty over the years and while I don’t always agree with everything he says I have HUGE respect for his opinions. At the link below you will find an explination of “Anarchism” by professor Chomsky that actually gives deffinition to the term “Anarchism” yet doesn’t frame it in dogmatic ideology. If ya got a few minutes check it out!
Peace
“The substance of philosophical anarchism is based on the creation of a good society that would exclude authority, repudiate violent methods of control, and strive toward anarchic organization. In order to achieve this blissful existence, dedicated and enlightened anarchists would set an example of their goodness by practicing the anarchist method in their isolated utopias. These islands of freedom would then be imitated by others seeking a more libertarian existence and the creation of a new organization of human relationships.” Poland, J. (2005) Understanding Terrorism: Groups, Strategies, and Responses (2nd Ed.)
Not too far from Chomsky’s depiction. So many people are under the impression that anarchy is a violent ideology used to do nothing but subvert all authority systems. As Chomsky eloquently points out; legitimate and humanitarian forms of authority are both needed and welcomed.
Sorry brother but I couldn’t resist listening to his assessment of 9/11. “Anybody who knows anything about the sciences (yours truly.lol) would instantly discount that evidence…The belief that it could have been done has such low credibility.”
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yes pretty close except maybe the isolated utopia and blissful existance stuff..
Now I don’t get your meaning on the 9/11 thing I thought chomsky’s position was it didn’t matter how but. When I take a break today or this evening I will try to find what you are refering too. “discount that evidence” … Hmm what evidence
dsent, given your blog today, I think you might enjoy reading Garry Reed’s Examiner blog. He is the Dallas Libertarian Examiner.
http://gyroscope2000.today.com
@dsent-He comes out and says that the notion of a Bush involvement is absurd. The science refutes all conspiracy theories. Which is why he states: “The belief that it could have been done has such low credibility.” It’s only about 6 and 1/2 minutes so have a listen. I believe it’s entitled Noam Chomsky dispels 9/11 Conspiracy Theories. I don’t intend to open old wounds or ignite a fight but he definitely doesn’t see things the way you do. He’s from my “neck of the woods.” Perhaps there’s something in the water that contributes to brilliance-just a thought. LOL
It’s SAD how our world is…only way for it to CLEAN up when OUR whole HUMAN race gets OBLITERATED! No more GREED, CORRUPTION, CHAOS, WAR, PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT!
Unlike the animals in the WILD, we are slowly destroying earth…for that ANY FORM of government in our world is WORTHLESS!
Nuclear BOMBS exist to DESTROY life.
So, at anytime at any moment, IT only TAKES one CRAZY to launch them bombs to the WORLD.
I am NOT making any ASSUMPTIONS but, out of speculation.
If North Korea starts to threaten United States, World War 3 will probably begin.
However, NUCLEAR war needs to be avoided so, maybe NOT! (Who knows anything can happen.)
All I am saying PEOPLE can’t HANDLE a big change, I wish they could…OUR form of GOVERNMENT is keeping CRAZIES at a minimum for now.
Nothing LASTS forever though, and I hope a FALL of OUR legal system DOES come very soon. I doubt that WE will live to see it…maybe our KIDS, or great great grand kids!
The only thing I can say is, AT LEAST WE can talk shit and criticize and DISS those prostitute, child molesting, money hungry POLITICIANS, everyone FROM Capital Hall, to the Senates, and Congress COCK SUCKIN FUCKS!
Including, our PRESIDENT, “STEALING HALF OUR MONEY as HE CHILLING TAX FREE!” You can say all this shit in their FACE, without worrying about GETTING shot, or sent to prison. (They would hate you for SPEAKING the TRUTH which they FAIL to EVEN do.)
But, if you do that shit in other countries without FREEDOM of SPEECH you DIE…so, it can’t be that bad.
start up Anarchy Petition WE have the RIGHT to VOTE right?
VOTE against democracy…it might start a WAR.
Anyways, our way of life has been WRITTEN and DECIDED…the RICH HAS always CONQUERED, and NEW GOVERNMENT LAW will EVENTFULLY TAKE FORM.
When it’s TIME…History repeats itself till there is nothing left.
Our planet is slowly AGING, it will eventfully DIE…all I am saying ENJOY your life the WAY it is cause, life is all you have, treasure your moment and time…. YOU only LIVE once.
Anyways, have good rest of the week to all, and enjoy watching Transformers 2 tomorrow…cause, I WILL!!!
Ok I reviewed the video, I think he said highly unlikley not absurd but whatever. I have never argued that Bush knew. Im not sure Bush knew how to tie his own tie. But while I have learned a great deal from Noam I dont consider his word to be irrefutable. I actually dont think he spoke to any of the issues of 911. OK our friends at ISI gave M. Atta $100k just before the event and no one knew about it, sure. All secret, whatever, I concur with Noam that it doesnt change much if Cheney knew but he also discounted the Kennedy hit as a lone gunman… Who knows? If we want to discuss the issue on its merrits. Then we must discuss issues not argue from authority which is an argument fallacy. That there are serious issues that arise from 911 is all that I have really ever argued because I have never felt I adiquatly understood exactlly what happened that day. I think there are some serious issues and the lack of transparency in the investigative process is centeral to those issues. Why wasn’t Dave Frasca repremanded? To say that it would have leeked if it were an inside job is about as realevant as saying it would have leeked if it were al-Qeada. I mean come on (plausable deniability and compartmentalization mean a lot can be done with no “direct involvment”) What al-Qeada can keep secrets but no one else can? I dont get it? So when exactly did Bin Laden stop being an assset to the US intellegence services? For Chomsky these are irrelavant questions. For me to consider what he had to say about the issue as authoritive he would actually have to address some of the problems surrounding the event. Which he did not do. Did Bush know? I doubt it, did Cheney know? hmm Know what? The depth of this opperation was incredible, sure it may have been a magical coincidence that the event was timed to coinside with war games, that included (phantom) inserted blips on FAA radar, sure it could all just be one AMAZING coincidence. But is it a coincidence that we didn’t get a thourogh investigation? Is it a coincidence that no one was reprimanded for failure to do their job? What, are we to belive. that no one droped the ball on 9-11? Or simply that it would have hurt someones feelings to dink them for ignoring actionable intel?
But really thanks for pointing out that Noam and I dont agree on everything. I have taken plenty of execption with things I have heard and read from him in the past. I still think he is a smart fucker, but I dont think because he is smart that means he is always correct. If you ask me he did not address the issue AT ALL he just discounted any possibility of any malfeasance, which is really unsupportable, he has no way of knowing if anyone ignored significant intel with the knowledge that this would be a useful event. You could be right, there could be something in the water that allows folks to state unequivocably that they know things they can not possibly know. See, Im not claiming I know, I am simply saying I want to try to answer some questions and hold some people accountable for their failures. I guess you and Chomsky belive that no one droped the ball on 911 and there is no possibility that anyone in US intel had any idea something was amiss.
Oh by the way when you (or chomsky) say the science refutes all conspiracy theorys, then what is the theory you are espousing, because the “offical story” is a “conspiracy theory” and if the science refutes it, then what are you saying? Was it a lone hijacker that jumped from plane to plane? Ya see I have as much problem (if not more) with the use of the term “conspiracy theory” as I do with the events of 911. Maybe you feel like we got a real investigation and that the system and all those in it have been vidicated. I think at the VERY LEAST someone dropped the ball and if we take the time to investigate who and how they dropped it we may just prevent future attacks. I think analysis of our systems and our practices is much MUCH more useful than torturing people.
Respect tailback
Did I mention I’m glad you are back ; )
defallis,
I didnt find Reeds blog But I did follow your link and read your blog and the site referal. I think you did better work than the article you sited.
My friend-The science I refer to is structural and the way in which the towers fell. On that; I believe it best that we agree to disagree. I am in complete agreement with you when you say that a number of people “dropped the ball” and I have never seen any evidence of anyone being held accountable for ignoring the warnings. You are very passionate in regards to this subject and I respect that. My contention is, and always will be, that the impact of the planes was more than sufficient to cause the damage it did. That being said; the investigation is wrought with inconsistencies but that should come as no surprise. If history has shown us anything it’s that our government’s propensity to avoid accountability is commonplace. That’s all I can say on the issue. BTW-did I mention it’s good to be back? LOL. Have you noticed that our numbers seem to be dwindling? Is it the Entrecard issue and do you think there’s anything we can do about it? There is one who appears to have gone away and I’m thankful for that-Guess who? Be good.
Respect
tailback.
You have been more persuasive than anyone I have talked to or read regarding their NOT being explosives involved. And its almost working for me on towers 1 & 2 but I cant make it on 7. but hey I have never felt the nature of the collapse was a critical issue.
As for numbers, I dont really watch them I try to be satisfied with getting some good discourse. But I would like to have more interaction/traffic, but I’m feeble about SEO and the Blog game, Im just an opinionated fuck who likes to talk politics.
pazzo,
Umm…. Ok.
My friend-the last thing you are is “just an opinionated fuck.” Though we disagree often; I have also learned an awful lot from you. I have been guilty of letting our differences escalate but no more. I, too, am not involved in SEO and have never looked into ways to increase traffic. Believe me; you give me more than enough to handle. Don’t ever change amigo; passion like yours isn’t easily found anymore. OK-enough of the love fest! Just don’t ever sell yourself short.